From: SPAMLESSforrest@west.net (Forrest Cameranesi)
Subject: New Old Units, Artifacts, and the Lost Fallen...
Date: 03 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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Someone asked in another thread before, what kind of new units would you
like to see? Well, I was recently reminded of the old Eidios pre-release
Myth page at <http://194.88.77.150/myth/gameplay.html>. There's several
unimplemented units mentioned there (Vampyrs, Griffins, Balloons,
Dirigibles, etc), as well as a number of artifacts which modify units'
capabilities. So, whoever would care to do so, check it out, try to make
some of the new units, or modify existing units to have the capabilities
given them by those artifacts (or actually implement the artifacts
themselves).

For example, the re-implement the Myth 1 Forest Giants, but make it so
they're only completely destroyable by fire, as originally planned. I
assume that this worked by them turning into a tree when near death, and
then that tree can only be hurt by fire. Also, the artifact called a
"Tathlam" was a sack of severed heads which the Forest Giants were planned
to throw, similar to how Myrkridian Giants now do. Dwarf-manned balloons
which slowly float around in the air, hence covering any terrain and being
harmable only be projectile units, with the kind of satchel artillary that
Balin had in Myth 1. The Skrael, fast melee/ranged unit (similar to the
bre'Unor) which can only go along wet terrain types, like all levels of
water and any "marsh" terrain. The Griffins were like flying lions, and
I'd presume they've got roughly the stats of a Maul (there are already
sprites for these in Myth 1's artsound.gor and the monolithic tags files
for Myth II, but they don't look very good). Bring the Myrmidons from Myth
1 back, but let them have a few shrunked heads to throw. The Trow were
means to hurl big explosive barrels called "Rhi Bombs"; this would be an
interesting thing to have. The anti-glow of Shades was supposed to
suppress all magic but their own; perhaps have this extinguish fire, so a
Shade could cross easily over it. The Undead Dirigible was supposed to be
like the Dwarven Ballons; perhaps make it drop non-explosive pus packets,
just parylizing those below it. Then there's Vampyrs; we don't know much
about them. I would presume that they are of average speed, but about two
or three times stronger than a human, and attack like a Mahir; bite the
neck and drain the life from it's target in a continuous stream. Perhaps
they could have a thing like Soulblighter's crows, but with bats instead,
and user-controllable. Hit special action, and click somewhere; the Vampyr
turns into a hoard of bats, flies to wherever you clicked, then
re-materializes. This could use full mana, so they can only do it once at
a time.

Then you've got artifacts. There's the Fever Stone, which would make it's
holder immune to pus-induced paralysis. The Speed Token could double a
unit's speed. Aconite could give arrows of spears a parylising poison tip.
Deep Fen boots would allow the wearer to walk over water. And the
Tarnkappe was an invisibility cloak (perhaps the unit's shadow should
still appear, though, so give your opponent some warning or indication).

I would like to see some scenario implementing all this; it could go
across the Deep Mire and the Drowned Kingdom, where the Skrael are. Very
nearby is the northern edge of the Ermine, where you meet the fir'Bolg and
their Griffon friends. Go east a ways and meet the new (old) Trow.
Southward near the Stair of Grief, the Berserk lands and their former kin
the Myrmidons. Take a balloon ride southward to Forest Heart, meet some
Dirigibles along the way. Then you'd have the Forest Giants. From there,
head on out to the Untamed Lands, with the Vampyrs. Perhaps this could be
another prequel to Myth 1, complementing Coming of the Dark (which I'm
working on, BTW), where you meet and battle the two unseen Fallen,
Bonesplitter and The Faceless Man. It could start with a small troop from
the Free Cities of the North, battling The Faceless Man's troops in the
Deep Mire. Then, before Alric and ou'Kahn forged the truce, the fir'Bolg
and their Griffins would be attacking as we passed near the Ermine.
Finally, The Faceless Man is cornered near the edge of Trow lands, but
then flees into the sea. Southward, we meet Bonesplitter, leader of the
Kithless (Myrmidons). Fight with them for a while, with an NPC army of
Berserks coming in from the west near the end of one of those levels. Flee
Bonesplitter toward the southeast, meet the Dwarves heading southwest to
Bagrada. A few of them help us in our flight by piloting balloons ahead of
the main forces (in one level; bombarding any enemies below), and then
transporting our main forces south even more (and we'd have to fight
against airborn Dirigibles coming to combat the Balloons). Meet Murgen
(who is seeking the aid of the Forest Giants) in Forest Heart. Make
friends with Giants, Murgen takes some up north to Seven Gates, we head
south into the Untamed lands to investigate rumors of blood-sucking
Vampyrs. Find them, combat them, meet Soulblighter, have some big
climactic showdown where all the Vampyrs are destroyed or something, but
then Soulblighter also oblitterates all our own forces. The End.

Any takers? I'm gonna talk to Ares from the Creation team about this as well...

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-Forrest Cameranesi
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